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he is not elected by the membership and holds no position. there is no way of knowing if he has an organic position with the nra whatsoever, except in this document i obtained that says he was appointed to the nominating committee. >> but wayne lapierre's real job is to make sure that that guy can get richer and richer and richer from these murder instruments. >> i think wayne lapierre's real job, the chief executive officer of the nra is to manage the message of the nra, in order to keep himself and others in power and to continue to have the political clout that they have had. he is an expert at manipulating the press and manipulating the message. he is extremely idealogical in his own writings and when he talks to people where he feels safe in a sympathetic forum. but you notice when he spoke at the press conference a week after newtown, he didn't mention the second amendment once, not once, i think what people need to realize is imagine if the vatican were to come out and say we're going to hold a press conference to make a meaningful con
he is not elected by the membership and holds no position. there is no way of knowing if he has an organic position with the nra whatsoever, except in this document i obtained that says he was appointed to the nominating committee. >> but wayne lapierre's real job is to make sure that that guy can get richer and richer and richer from these murder instruments. >> i think wayne lapierre's real job, the chief executive officer of the nra is to manage the message of the nra, in order...
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many of them are up for re-election in 2014. potentially vulnerable. montana senator max baucus responded to the senate in a statement, quote, before passing new laws, we need a debate that respects responsible, law-abiding gun owners in montana instead of a one-size-fits-all directives from washington. joe manchin said, quote, i'm disappointed the president did not recommend the creation of a national commission on mass violence that i have proposed. a national commission can build the consensus we need for real action, backed not only by gun control advocates, mental health experts and entertainment industry executives but also by law-abiding gun owners. >>> the white house is worried that if this fight becomes too much about the assault weapons ban, and not enough about measures, which are more politically possible, they'll have a problem. they want to keep people focused on fights they can win. background checks, things like that. republicans have unsurprisingly responded negatively, including florida senator marco rubio. >> by the own admission of
many of them are up for re-election in 2014. potentially vulnerable. montana senator max baucus responded to the senate in a statement, quote, before passing new laws, we need a debate that respects responsible, law-abiding gun owners in montana instead of a one-size-fits-all directives from washington. joe manchin said, quote, i'm disappointed the president did not recommend the creation of a national commission on mass violence that i have proposed. a national commission can build the...
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incentive is re-election. in a lot of southern districts most of these people are hunters. most are gun owners and they don't like people touching their guns. they don't need to be nra members to have that feeling. the nra is powerful. these outside groups get more credit than they deserve. there's a bunch of people that own guns they don't need an nra sticker to feel passionate about that issue. >> we'll see you later on "morning joe." now to a developing overseas where american citizens are among dozens of people being held in a hostage standoff. this is unfolding now in the is a had-- sahara desert. dozens of hostages who work at the plant including americans. officials say at least two people were killed during the raid. the militants claim the take is revenge for france's military operation against rebels in neighboring mali. the u.s. providing assistance to that effort. take a listen to leon panetta talking about this standoff. >> by all indications this is a terrorist act and the united states strongly condemns these kinds of terrorist acts. it's a very serious matte
incentive is re-election. in a lot of southern districts most of these people are hunters. most are gun owners and they don't like people touching their guns. they don't need to be nra members to have that feeling. the nra is powerful. these outside groups get more credit than they deserve. there's a bunch of people that own guns they don't need an nra sticker to feel passionate about that issue. >> we'll see you later on "morning joe." now to a developing overseas where...
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if he does his, this campaign for gun control like he did his re-election campaign then i don't put it past the president to get something through congress. i don't know what it will be. i want will be hard to get anything through a republican congress. he can do that, yes. >> thanks so much for your perspective. >> thanks. >> turning now to sports. the nba, heat vz the wizards, 28-year-old lebron james is now the youngest player to reach the 20,000 point mark in his career. only 38 other players have reached that point. heat cruised to an easy win over golden state 92-75. >>> overtime thriller as chicago's dang hit a jump shot with three second left on the clock. >>> and a dramatic upset in college basketball as maryland was trailing with five seconds left in the game. one shot missed but alex grabbed it and scored to knock off number 14 north carolina state, 51-50. >>> in the nfl, jim kelley is the new head coach of the philadelphia eagles. >>> and a billboard sign in boston is counting down the minutes until the retirement party for baltimore linebacker ray lewis. the sign suggests
if he does his, this campaign for gun control like he did his re-election campaign then i don't put it past the president to get something through congress. i don't know what it will be. i want will be hard to get anything through a republican congress. he can do that, yes. >> thanks so much for your perspective. >> thanks. >> turning now to sports. the nba, heat vz the wizards, 28-year-old lebron james is now the youngest player to reach the 20,000 point mark in his career....
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i'm waiting for others to come out who are still elected representatives of the party. one, to say hey, let's have a real conversation here and not just hide behind the nra and its rhetoric of fear. >> michael, do you think there are any republicans that will vote for any of the proposals that were put on the table today? >> i do. and i'll tell you why. it's the numbers that you show in the first segment today, those poll numbers. that's where the rubber meets the road here. it's a turning point and one that the party better get in front of. >> at this point in time, the only gop voice we are really hearing are the crazy ones. so you might be right, michael, susan, any other republicans who are out there. but as the debate is being framed, we don't see any real republicans in leadership positions taking a moderate -- >> michael, i hope you're correct. >> the obama campaign apparatus is going to take on the nra. we'll ask if the president will hit the road to make his case directly to the american people. then find out how survivors are reacting to the president's plan.
i'm waiting for others to come out who are still elected representatives of the party. one, to say hey, let's have a real conversation here and not just hide behind the nra and its rhetoric of fear. >> michael, do you think there are any republicans that will vote for any of the proposals that were put on the table today? >> i do. and i'll tell you why. it's the numbers that you show in the first segment today, those poll numbers. that's where the rubber meets the road here. it's a...
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he was last seen in washington when he was re-elected speaker of the house. there are reports he and the house gop are at an annual retreat in williamsburg, yet conservatives like hugh hewitt are calling him a milk carton republican because he's gone missing on several very important debates. do you know where he is? >> you know, i have not personally seen this man, john boehner, but i have heard of him. i know who he is vaguely. i think he's the guy that had the most miserable, unpleasant speakership in the history of the republic, and it was because he had these conservative freshmen who came in all excited to undo the government, and they didn't understand that as speaker his job is to not undo the government. so he's had this problem where he can't please conservatives like hugh hewitt because they want him to champion real conservative principles but he can't get re-elected in his district, and republicans can't win on a national level if they champion those same values. i think right now boehner has chosen to just go quiet and sort of back away from the
he was last seen in washington when he was re-elected speaker of the house. there are reports he and the house gop are at an annual retreat in williamsburg, yet conservatives like hugh hewitt are calling him a milk carton republican because he's gone missing on several very important debates. do you know where he is? >> you know, i have not personally seen this man, john boehner, but i have heard of him. i know who he is vaguely. i think he's the guy that had the most miserable,...
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in many ways, the re-election, the narrative i heard, the first election was about president obama. the second election was about all the people who they attempted to suppress their voting. so that return was as much about us, right, about them, about the community as it was about president obama himself. >> certainly in the first campaign you heard president obama saying over and over again, it's not about me, it's about us. reinforcing this idea that i think is encompassed in the phrase of the long civil rights movement. people don't pop out of nowhere. that work, there's the bedrock work that gets us to the shining moments and sometimes these shining messengers, if you will, who have a particular gift and appear at the convergence at a cross road and can help us move forward. symbols do bear power. symbolic figures enable us to co-ales. >> it's interesting. it's easier to think about one or two symbols than the hard work. think about the montgomery busboys. they were women, domestic women working in homes of white families having to walk all of those miles. >> for a year. >> exac
in many ways, the re-election, the narrative i heard, the first election was about president obama. the second election was about all the people who they attempted to suppress their voting. so that return was as much about us, right, about them, about the community as it was about president obama himself. >> certainly in the first campaign you heard president obama saying over and over again, it's not about me, it's about us. reinforcing this idea that i think is encompassed in the phrase...
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this is a way to overturn the election. people will understand that, and republicans will be punished. >> i believe that if a state that votes majority for one guy for president, either party, and finds out two or three days later that the majority of their electoral votes went the other way, we'll have a revolution. anyway, i don't think it's going to happen. but i understand what you guys are up to because you can't win a majority vote anymore. thank you, steve mcmahon and the objective robert costa from the great renowned "national journal." >> national review. >> when we return, the republicans' mickey mouse club. you're watching "hardball," the place for politics. axiron, the only underarm treatment for low t, can restore testosterone levels back to normal in most men. axiron is not for use in women or anyone younger than 18. axiron can transfer to others through direct contact. women, especially those who are or who may become pregnant, and children should avoid contact where axiron is applied as unexpected signs of p
this is a way to overturn the election. people will understand that, and republicans will be punished. >> i believe that if a state that votes majority for one guy for president, either party, and finds out two or three days later that the majority of their electoral votes went the other way, we'll have a revolution. anyway, i don't think it's going to happen. but i understand what you guys are up to because you can't win a majority vote anymore. thank you, steve mcmahon and the objective...
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not the last election cycle but 2010 it finally surpassed incumbency in getting re-elected. 97% of getting re-elected whoever raised the most money and it is dysfunctional. you'll have plor self-funded candidates, more people who come with special interest money and you won't have people with real backgrounds in the legislatures or private sector. >> we're just exacerbating the problem and we aren't going to be able to develop relationships with other members as rick has suggested so we're actually legislating and creating effective policy. it is a component of the job most of us find distasteful and we'd prefer to be doing the real work. >> being kind. hello. this is distasteful. but listen. >> that may be a model day but is not a real day. when i go back to the district as much as i like to be sunning on the beach, we'll be back for ten days. probably like the rest of us, we are booked appointment after appointment. >> sure. >> and our districts span a district. >> i don't think objects to that. going to bingo halls and chamber of commerce. >> here is the point. people are upset because
not the last election cycle but 2010 it finally surpassed incumbency in getting re-elected. 97% of getting re-elected whoever raised the most money and it is dysfunctional. you'll have plor self-funded candidates, more people who come with special interest money and you won't have people with real backgrounds in the legislatures or private sector. >> we're just exacerbating the problem and we aren't going to be able to develop relationships with other members as rick has suggested so...
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it's a re-election flection of l think about this. if you were going to be real about these issues you would be asking what can we do to beef up the security. something gop members have already cut, you know, and they have decisions to cut it now in these days as we're speaking. it's rank hypocrisy. i think it's a fresh breath of air that people -- >> i agree with you about the hypocrisy because i remember 9/11 very clearly and i remember how this country rallied around a president who had limited ability but we all rallied around him. the first reaction was he says we're going to get the people who knocked down this building and everybody cheered him. they weren't saying how did you screw it up buddy. it was about unit. the left and center are much better at national unity than the right. the right sees a national tragedy like this far off in bengha benghazi, not in new york city, at a very exposed position which could have happened no matter how many troops he would there. we don't blame it on everybody even know it was new york rig
it's a re-election flection of l think about this. if you were going to be real about these issues you would be asking what can we do to beef up the security. something gop members have already cut, you know, and they have decisions to cut it now in these days as we're speaking. it's rank hypocrisy. i think it's a fresh breath of air that people -- >> i agree with you about the hypocrisy because i remember 9/11 very clearly and i remember how this country rallied around a president who...
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really helped him get elected, re-elected rather. guns will come up, i think, because the mood is right for that. i'm not sure how far he'll be able to go with that because of the resistance in the house, but he'll fight the good fight on that issue, and he'll talk about doing two things at once which will be difficult to balance. one, jobs and economic recovery. two, bring down the debt and deficit spending. those are -- >> a balanced way. i'm sure he'll use that language as well. >> a balanced way. opposing goals, but he intends to do them both. >> lynn, do you think we'll hear any talk of energy or climate change at all in the speech tomorrow? >> i do. i think climate change will be an added starter when we look at agenda goals, and i don't know if we had this discussion two months ago, even if curbing gun violence would have been something we would have thought would come up tomorrow. >> yeah. >> but i think that it is -- it is just something that the obama administration did not put a super emphasis on in the last four years and
really helped him get elected, re-elected rather. guns will come up, i think, because the mood is right for that. i'm not sure how far he'll be able to go with that because of the resistance in the house, but he'll fight the good fight on that issue, and he'll talk about doing two things at once which will be difficult to balance. one, jobs and economic recovery. two, bring down the debt and deficit spending. those are -- >> a balanced way. i'm sure he'll use that language as well....
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i've seen the same thing in electing people to the senate. the establishment in washington said you couldn't elect a conservative from pennsylvania. but if you take your message directly to the people, people like pat toomey can actually win elections. i'm convinced that if we take the right ideas, the right message to the american people, they'll pressure washington to do more, to pull things together that actually work for our country. so as ronald reagan used to say, if you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat. i want to make them feel the heat from the american people. >> so senator, i'm just curious because you've been on the inside, and you're watching this gun debate from the outside of the halls of congress. what you think about the nra's response to everything since newtown? and could they be a better part of the conversation -- obviously, i have a very, you know, opposing point of view compared to what they stand for, but could they be a better part of the conversation had they acted differently? >> well, probably
i've seen the same thing in electing people to the senate. the establishment in washington said you couldn't elect a conservative from pennsylvania. but if you take your message directly to the people, people like pat toomey can actually win elections. i'm convinced that if we take the right ideas, the right message to the american people, they'll pressure washington to do more, to pull things together that actually work for our country. so as ronald reagan used to say, if you can't make them...
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the president won the election. and he laid out a program and a philosophy, and he won the election on it. and i think as long as republicans are going to take the stance that he didn't win and that, in fact, they won and therefore they get to do things their way, i don't think -- i don't see how that's going to help them get out of that 14% hole. >> eugene, nbc.com had a very interesting way of putting it this morning, a very nice tag which is that what the electorate is looking for right now is not so much hope but a president who can cope. it's all about coping, not so much hoping. do you think that this kind of poll suggests that he is going to be able to deliver on that message of coping? >> well, you know, first of all, i think that's right. i think that, you know, the whole atmosphere around the second inauguration, it's just different, right? four years ago, there was a sense of moment, a sense of history and enormous anticipation. and now with any second inauguration, a lot of that is missing and really peo
the president won the election. and he laid out a program and a philosophy, and he won the election on it. and i think as long as republicans are going to take the stance that he didn't win and that, in fact, they won and therefore they get to do things their way, i don't think -- i don't see how that's going to help them get out of that 14% hole. >> eugene, nbc.com had a very interesting way of putting it this morning, a very nice tag which is that what the electorate is looking for...
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she has a tough re-election fight on her hands. there's a whole handful of others. >> and again, here's a good example. you look at the president's three priorities that he laid out at the inauguration. in his inaugural speech. climate change. kay hagen, even though this is critically important for democrats and progressives and some republicans, kay hagen can't take that back to north carolina and campaign hard on that in the next two years any more than she can on gay marriage, national gay marriage issue. that will work in a lot of states. as we were saying yesterday, progress is on the march in this area. a lot of democrats believe. but that march hasn't gone through north carolina yet. and the same thing with gun control, an issue that certainly assault weapon control matters a lot to me. but in north carolina statewide, you almost feel like a republican could push that bettbet er than a democrat. >> no question. >> a democrat, it feeds into all of people's worst suspicion about them on guns. >> these are tough votes. and john
she has a tough re-election fight on her hands. there's a whole handful of others. >> and again, here's a good example. you look at the president's three priorities that he laid out at the inauguration. in his inaugural speech. climate change. kay hagen, even though this is critically important for democrats and progressives and some republicans, kay hagen can't take that back to north carolina and campaign hard on that in the next two years any more than she can on gay marriage, national...